• veee
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    -155 months ago

    There’s got to be another way to describe this than as a “recall”. New buyers seeing the term “recall” could shake their confidence in the EV industry as a whole and needlessly perpetuate the sale of ICE vehicles.

    • @[email protected]
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      265 months ago

      Nah, recalls happen all the time to ICE vehicles and no one eschews them for the train or metro. Integrity begins with what is said and how. It is important to be direct, even if our own personal biased want to show.

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        The issue comes in that, historically, recalls require you to take your car in for service… hence the name. With OTA updates, the issues are often fixed before the consumer even knows there is an issue and the “recall” effectively just becomes communication that there was a problem.

        These communications definitely need to continue happening and should remain mandatory by law, but calling them the same thing that requires a trip to the mechanic or dealership, to replace parts, is specifically being broadcast as a means to discredit the technology.

        People that aren’t informaed about the difference end up believing these issues will prevent their car from working or reduce reliability when they are simple software patches that happen without the need for additional resources.

        • @[email protected]
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          35 months ago

          The vehicle is unsafe to drive until the update happens

          Whether it’s easier for the user to verify themselves, or it’s easier to take it to the dealer isn’t really relevant

          It’s not being used to discredit the technology - it’s how you tell consumers that the product is not safe without a modification

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      People said the same thing recently when Tesla was required to do an OTA update in the US. The thing is that while they don’t have to physically work on each vehicle, it’s labeled a recall because it’s a regulatory action that compelled them to do it. Tesla didn’t decide to do these updates on their own - they were directed to do so by the government, first in the US and now in China.

      • veee
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        105 months ago

        Aha! This makes a lot of sense and is the type of answer i was looking for.

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          Voluntary recalls are actually more common than ordered recalls. Manufacturers usually don’t wait for the NHTSA to get involved.

          What makes it a recall is that either the manufacturer or the NHTSA determine that there’s a safety defect or that the vehicle doesn’t confirm to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard.

          So I believe the terminology is required by the NHTSA if it fits the above definition regardless of how the issue is addressed.

          Of course this is for the US and this is a recall in China but I’m assuming similar legal requirements are involved.

    • @[email protected]
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      135 months ago

      I mean, it should absolutely shake peoples’ faith in Tesla. They are unreliable vehicles made by a shady af company.

      • @[email protected]
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        45 months ago

        With a man-child as the CEO who removed Disney+ cause he got his feelers hurt.

        Imagine what else Apartheid Karen would do given the chance?

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      It is a “recall” though. It’s just the term is historically associated with physically bringing the vehicle in for repairs.

      Tesla Stans like to crack jokes about the apps on their phones having “recalls” but recalls pertain specifically to safety concerns.

      the term “recall” could shake their confidence in the EV industry as a whole

      Possibly but I’m not really sure what to do about it other than just educating the public.

    • @[email protected]
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      45 months ago

      I would hope people could at least read the full headline of “over autopilot safety controls” and realize that has nothing to do with how the vehicle is powered.

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      5 months ago

      Alternatively they could stop making shit cars and putting people’s lives in danger

    • @[email protected]
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      -55 months ago

      Agreed. This is why most Tesla recall headlines are clickbait. It’s the first thing I check when I see one.

      • Shake747
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        -55 months ago

        Oof you can’t say anything on Lemmy that defies the “we hate tesla because Elon” culture - even slightly.

        Enjoy the -30 downvotes lol, I’m sure I’ll join you shortly.

        • @[email protected]
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          -35 months ago

          Also agreed! It’s like Elon and the thousands of people who work at Tesla are basically the same thing /s