Republicans sure do sympathize with traitorous slavers.
Republicans constantly remind us that the Confederate slave owners were in fact Democrats and that they freed the slaves from the evil racists liberals.
So if it’s a monument to the Democrats that lost their lives to defend racism why exactly are they scathing mad about it being torn down again?I mean I know why, and you know why, but how would they respond if asked the same question?
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You can’t apply reasonableness and common sense to crazies. Much like their religion, they have absolutely no problem with contradicting themselves from one sentence to the next.
They’ll, with a completely confident look, repeat the impossible. And blame you for not understanding if you point out it is impossible.
But of course Democrats of that time weren’t liberals at all.
Memorial to traitors of the United States to be removed from United States property despite other traitors objections.
Good. Die mad traitors.
Virginia governor Youngkin wants to move the memorial to Virginia. I wonder who his voting base is…
It’s already in Virginia, they’re moving into a rural battlefield historical site
Good. 40 GOP congresspeople object. Last I checked 40 is a tiny sliver of congress, even of just the GOP members.
Call down, conservatives… they’re reinstalling it near a parking lot off the 110. The DOT is short of urinals and this is the most cost effective way to get the monument filled with enough piss to make things right.
I’ll be at the reinstall event handing out coffee and other diuretics.
The flag of losers since 1865
Good riddance to it.
I don’t believe that any person of color should have to live on or work at an installation named after someone who believed that owning other human beings was appropriate and then fought for that belief.
I’m in whole hearted agreement with the renaming of our military posts named after Confederates.
That said, I’m not in favor of this removal, we as Americans must never forget, and memorials like this are an in-your-face reminder of what happened and the appalling legacy of slavery. My preference would be that it stayed with some educational materials nearby as a constant reminder of people behaving horribly.
Is the way to remember World War II with a big triumphant statue of Hitler on horseback? Or, is it by teaching history?
If you want that memorialize it like the holocaust museums. Don’t celebrate it with a Monument.
What?
It’s Arlington…
Imagine giving your life for your country, earning a spot at Arlington, and then being buried next to a racist statue.
Like, do you know it’s history? We seized the land from Lee, the leader of Confederates and who was himself strongly and publicly against any monument honoring the South…
Which is why it wasn’t installed till 50 years later when the rest of these racist monuments sprung up.
Aye this is it. Arlington National Cemetery was literally Robert E Lee’s personal estate. The Union Army took it over and decided to start burying the Union dead there – Lee was killing them, so he can keep them.
It’s crazy they’d put a Confederate monument there, on what is basically a US Army cemetery, that exists entely due to how crazy bloody the Civil War was.
Long past time they removed it.
You know what would really remind people about the tragedies of the past and not require memorializing them with public statues?
Fucking GOP-controlled states not teaching that slavery was a good thing. Or those same states banning their racist redefinition of CRT to make children unaware of why the Civil Rights movement happened. Maybe we could, I dunno, teach that racism and slavery are unequivocally bad and the Civil War was a direct result of that, and that the following 150 years of American history is the result of not dealing with that?
If you want to never forget through statues and memorials, you do not make them of the oppressor. Germany has no problem remembering the Nazis in spite of there not being any statues or memorials to those fuck heads who were around for longer than the Confederacy.
The renaming of military ‘posts’ to non-Confederate names is already in progress for some time now. The removal of the monument from Arlington is part of that process.
Did you read the article: “Virginia’s governor, Glenn Youngkin, disagrees with the decision and plans to move the monument to the New Market battlefield state historical park in the Shenandoah Valley…”Well aware that the re naming effort is complete. Mostly abysmal names, though Gregg-Adams and Novosel are pretty good. When you have amazing humans like Medal of Honor recipient Roy Benavidez and choose Liberty as the new name for Bragg over Benavidez, because he wasn’t an officer, that’s fucked up.
Nah. There’s literal slaves on the monument. One clinging to the baby of an officer saying goodbye. Another diligently following an officer to war.
It’s conveying the Lost Cause Myth that slavery was a good thing.
I think all of these memorials and artifacts should be placed in specific museums that celebrate the atrocities that made this country “great.” If any racist-ass white folk wanna go reminisce about the good ol’ times, they can go to that museum and pay an entrance fee that supports education and reparations.
All monuments should center around the victims, not celebrate and honor the perpetrators. I live in the gulf south and let me tell you, visiting plantations is frequently an eye-opening experience. The sympathy they show is completely lopsided. It’s romanticized, even fetishized at times. It’s disgusting. Some do it right but many don’t. In fact, there is a headline on Lemmy right now talking about how a Texas plantation removed a bunch of their books “because they focus too much on slavery.“ I mean…what the fuck does that even mean? Plantations literally existed for slaves to do work on.
Germany did it right. They tore up basically every monument related to Hitler, then turned certain locations into important historical locations that centered on the victims and emphasized the atrocities that were committed. You will not find a single line of text or location celebrating Hitler.
Do you think Germany has forgotten what’s happened since they banned the display of the swastika? I’m sure we can survive without the confederate battleflag.
Let me throw one more little fun fact out there for you: there are countless wedding venues that are former plantations, that kept plantation in the name, and are highly sought after. I live 40 minutes away from a “plantation” that wasn’t even a plantation. They literally built the venue in the 20th century, called it “______ plantation,” and now it’s a destination wedding venue. Do you not see how fucked that is?
Yeah, we are at risk of forgetting our history. But it’s not because of efforts to remove these monuments glorifying an atrocious system. It’s because we have allowed people to reframe them to the point of omitting what actually occurred.
There is an argument for a site talking about the horrors of slavery and Jim Crow, however I don’t think Arlington is the best venue for it. Also you know motivations, you can bet that people involved with this Confederate stuff aren’t doing it so that humanity won’t forget how bad this was, they are doing it to honor it.
Yeah, ‘never forget’ when “mammies” were nursemaids.
