In lawsuit, Musk says ads next to antisemitic posts are Media Matters’ fault.

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    So I guess X is past the “deny there was antisemitic content” stage.

    Also, the hot take from Ken Paxton

    Paxton claimed to be “extremely troubled by the allegations that Media Matters, a radical anti-free speech organization, fraudulently manipulated data on X.com.”

    Freedom to do what, Ken?

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      Yeah, reading through the article, it’s a weird set of mental gymnastics they’re going through to argue the case. They’re saying that Media Matters basically created an account specifically for the purposes of seeing hate speech content and refreshing it so much that these major advertisers eventually showed up next to the hate speech content. They’re not even acting like it’s an issue that the hate speech is on there in the first place, it’s just sort of like a given, “Of course we host hate speech, so what?” The problem that they’re arguing is that the average user likely wouldn’t see this, which doesn’t seem like that’s what Media Matters was saying, MM just presented it as, “This has the possibility of happening on twitter/X.” As long as they’re the ones allowing hate speech on their site, they’re creating opportunities for these ad placement situations to happen in the first place, MM just pointed it out.

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    I’ll never understand the point of “enough_____spam” that reposts old stories about the person the sub claims they’re tired of hearing about…

    Should have left this shit on reddit

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      I assumed the point was to contain it to a single community so people who don’t want to hear about it can block it

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        Literally every second post was some bullshit like this on main until I blocked like 20 subs. If you wanted to contain it, it failed pretty spectacularly.

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          It obviously won’t work 100%. That amount of coordination and collaboration for existing and new members is next to impossible

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      You’re right, let’s post it all over the news and tech communities for everyone to see, right?

      You could make the argument that this community exists to fill a niche where post tags would work well - namely, Musk stuff can get posted here, general-subject comms can choose to ban it, and you - a strong independent user who don’t need no spam - can block it.

      That’s literally the whole point of it. Block it. Stop complaining about people doing you a favor.

      Should have left that shit on Reddit.

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        You’re right, let’s post it all over the news and tech communities for everyone to see, right?

        Well, OP literally crossposted this to regular subs tho…

        Which is the point I was making, these stupid subs only make the problem they’re complaining about worse

        There’s literally no point to them, they actively make the entire problem they’re meant to solve.

        I legitimately don’t understand why you all don’t get this.

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          Shouldn’t you be complaining in those other subs that you don’t want to see news related to Musk/Twitter in those subs? Why are you here complaining about posts about musk in a community that was created specifically to discuss musk?

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      I’m not subbed here, but I always assumed it was a joke like the name of the community is what other users say.

      Like, I see users on here complain about Musk posts on tech communities and stuff, just as on reddit. So I figured the user who named it did so because everyone was telling them to stop spamming communities with Musk posts.

      So they decided to make a community specifically for that content, and ironically named it that.

      I have no clue if that’s correct… but I’m totally okay with this community existing, as it prevents its content from perpetuating other communities. If you don’t want to see their posts, just block the community.

      It’s dumb and counterintuitive to criticize their community’s existence when it has the content all boxed up an ready for you to block it. Why would you instead want the users here inundating communities you browse with Elon Musk posts?

      I have blocked so many anime, meme, and sports communities I have no interest in, and I don’t see them anymore. I don’t go into the community I don’t enjoy to complain about their content. That’s useless. Just block and move on.

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        Oh, it’s been blocked. Probably for months.

        Lemmy just did that thing where when you sign it, it still shows blocked subs till you refresh

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          It literally was published 11/21/23, referencing a lawsuit filed Monday the 20th, and all other articles about it are a day old or less. It’s an ingot story.

          Is the ceasefire in Israel old news because the conflict kicked off over a month ago?

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            It literally was published 11/21/23

            Cool…

            But how does that make it today like that other account said?

            That’s a rhetorical question btw, I don’t want to hear about how the real American calendar doesn’t have a gold fringe.

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              Maybe they misspoke, maybe they’re just wrong. But it’s still not an old reposted story as you suggested, which is what they were getting at. If you choose to be obtuse that’s on you.

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                This is such an odd response

                “Yeah I know you were completely correct and the other dude was clearly wrong. But I dont like what youre saying, so Im just going to ignore that”

                They arent being obtuse, youre being obstinate.

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                obtuse

                I don’t think that word means what you think it means…

                But neither do calendars, so not especially surprising.

                Best of luck tho

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      yep.

      Never understood it on reddit either.

      We hate this guy…so let’s make a community to constantly complain about him.

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        I think it’s worth keeping tabs on what the richest man in the world is doing to a social media platform the mainstream media pays a lot of attention to.

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        The point is that Musk-related posts are supposed to go on this community, instead of filling all the others, so that you can block just this community if you don’t want to see it. The fact that people keep dumping Musk content in other communities is their failing, not a failure of this specific subset.

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        This is not just about the guy being a dick, that’s him actively working to make criticism of him - and by extension all oligarchs - harder or even impossible. Definitely something we should talk about.