• bermuda
    link
    fedilink
    English
    75
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    pot calling the kettle black are we

    (I just googled this phrase since to be honest I didn’t know its origins and I really prefer the 1639 version “Pot calling the pan burnt-arsed” now)

  • Pollen Pirate
    link
    fedilink
    47
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Ah! I just configured yesterday my router to block all the Apple tracking requests (via DNS)… My Android don’t have Google, so they are technically wrong, there is no Apple OS with no tracking (as it is closed source).

    EDIT: Also, we don’t need to listen them, we have proofs: https://www.scss.tcd.ie/doug.leith/apple_google.pdf 😼

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    317 months ago

    Slides from 20 years ago.

    This is news, yes, especially considering that Apple made a deal with the devil considering its new self-reported bloom as privacy focused.

    But news headlines are acting like Apple just said this today, and that is complete headline bait.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      17
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      10 years ago, I dont think android was released on 2003.

      The 2013-era slides describe, in typical modest fashion for Apple, its overall approach at the time to privacy.

  • m-p{3}
    link
    fedilink
    29
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    Yet Apple gladly takes billions from Google so that they remain the default search engine.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      46 months ago

      Yes it’s all business.

      Partnership team finds the biggest bidder for the default search.

      Marketing teams find the best argument against their biggest competitor.

      At no point anyone is pondering if Google is “good” or “bad” because companies typically don’t care.

  • bedrooms
    link
    fedilink
    16
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    I guess what that slide meant was not what the author thought.

    Well, yes, Android is a “massive tracking device”, but Google Search is not the culprit. Android apps were able to collect user data easily because they didn’t have to ask for users’ permission (and even today, by using an old Android API iirc).

    So, no, I don’t trust Apple, but that slide is probably irrelevant.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      87 months ago

      and even today, by using an old Android API iirc

      Nope, the required API to have your app in the Playstore constantly rises, and if you don’t comply you get kicked. The current API version is something around 26, and definitely has the permissions model integrated.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        27 months ago

        They’re also adding an API version check on devices, which will affect old apps that have gotten around the store checks. Only affects devices that can upgrade to 14, but it’s a solid step.

      • bedrooms
        link
        fedilink
        27 months ago

        Yeah, but you can distribute your app outside and the official store then

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      247 months ago

      Well, in this case, it is a lie of omission. It is true that Android devices are massive trackers. But, so are Apple devices.

      • Alex
        link
        fedilink
        17 months ago

        Depends which Android devices. I don’t have any unlatched Google apps in my phone

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          37 months ago

          True. Me too. The fact that you can degoogle some Android phones while you cannot de-apple iphones makes the lie of omission particularly vicious.