• SomeoneElseMod@feddit.ukOPM
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    Amongst other allegations, Courtney Love said they had oral sex when she was just 12 years old.

    More about the allegations against him here.

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      The only other musician that’s firmly in their camp is Kid Rock and I wouldn’t wish that fate on anyone

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        and kid rock also wrote a song about diddling kids that appeared in the movie Osmosis Jones!

        “Young ladies, young ladies, I like 'em underage see Some say that’s statutory (But I say it’s mandatory)”

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    These celebrities really needs to find better hobbies than posting on Twitter/X.

    Like shitposting on Lemmy.

    Also, ew, Ted Nugent.

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    We’re all talking about how bad of a person he is, but not enough about how stupid he is.

    I mean… if I literally wrote a song about wanting to have sex with a 13-year old girl four decades ago you could catch me dead before you see me ever mentioning anything related to minors or pedophilia in the rest of my life. Posting something like this is pretty much asking for people to dig up all the shit you did. Like I never heard about him before this and the first thing I know is that he’s a pedo. Great job I guess?

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      Oof. I was in the car today and Rick James’s 17 came on and I felt dirty just listening to it.

      A little girl came up to me, acting young and shy

      A look of curiosity was flashing in her eyes

      She had seen my face before and thought she knew me well

      So I said “Shall we talk some more, you’ll come to my hotel”

      She was only seventeen, seventeen

      But she was sexy

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    Ok but how are sexualities and plants related? I understand the joke is “kill pedos” but I’m missing something, can anyone help connect the dots?

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      Have you ever had an IQ test or similar? You sometimes get questions like “A car is to transport, what a fork is to ___” with the answer being “cutlery”. It’s not that transport/cutlery or cars/forks have anything in common, it’s about their relationship to the group.

      So in the post it’s saying that “if you think paedophilla is just a type of sexuality, then murdering someone and burying their body is just a type of gardening”. It’s not exactly a flawless comparison, but that’s what they were going for.

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        …so I understand where you’re going with this, but I think it is such a poor attempt on his part that I’m still trying to understand it lmao. I guess you’re right, what else could it be really? Still makes no sense to me though.

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          Like I said, it’s not the best example but it’s also not the worst one of these I’ve heard, they can get really really obscure. Maybe this is a better explanation/translation:

          “If paedophilla is as innocent as a “sexual orientation”, then burying your dead body in my garden is as innocent as “gardening.”

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            OH ok yeah your rephrasing here connected the dots, thanks. Hell it’s definitely one of the dumbest I’ve seen, I do not envy you lmao. Thanks for the help on that!

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    I respect but also feel sorry for people who are sexually attracted to children, but manage to control themselves. They have to work extra hard constantly just to not be monsters, while the rest of us never even have to worry about that.

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      I have a sneaking feeling that I’ll need some popcorn when looking at replies to this comment. I’ll be back later

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          No, I’m glad you posted it. It’s a valid point and I agree with you. Living in constant fear, disgust and denial must be exhausting and terrifying.

          I’ll be keeping a close eye on the comments so this remains a civil discussion.

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      Well this is certainly a thing that someone typed once. I’d counter that it’s not simply that people are innocently attracted to children and therefore deserve sympathy. I’d say there’s more involved in that attraction. You can’t reasonably engage in any romantic or sexual abuse encounter with a child without there being a totally lopsided power dynamic and a high degree of exploitation. I’d argue that for all such people this is what draws them to it. Within that context it’s not some innocent ‘miswiring’ of the brain but instead an individual that is completely unhealthy and mentally unwell that is entertaining the idea of grooming some child. That’s the part they are after.

      I know there’s a movement to try and see pedophiles as anything but what they are and you can sit and have thought experiments about ‘the ones that act vs those that don’t’ but at the end of the day you are left with a deeply unwell individual that desperately needs inpatient psychiatric treatment, psychiatric medication, extensive counseling, and total separation from any children.

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        Exactly - they need treatment and help so they don’t act on it - but with the demonizing that’s happening I’d guess that most of them are too scared to open up and try to fight their urge on their own.

        I’d guess that pretty much no-one wants to normalise pedophilia in a way that makes acting that attraction out normal but making it more normal to talk about if and seek help similar to how depressions aren’t nearly as stigmatized as 50 years ago

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        Yes, they need treatment – and threatening them with torture and death will discourage them from seeking treatment.

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        Well, you’d be wrong. Pedophilia is well studied. It’s attraction to children, and there’s a huge amount of variation in how that is expressed and how the psychology around it develops through a person’s life. Baselessly claiming that all people with pedophilia are just rapists who want easy prey is unhelpful nonsense.

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          After all, the word stems from the suffix “philia” which means tendency or affinity towards, as opposed to “phobia” which means aversion or separation from. Philia is used for a lot of words as a suffix for literally meaning affinity towards, like in the word “hydrophilic” or affinity towards (bearing) water, but it can also denote interest or attraction as in “audiophile” (interested in audio), “cynophile” (interested in or lover of canines/dogs), or “gynophile” (interested or loving of women).

          Here’s the definition and further background about “pedophile”.