TIL that there’s a pride flag to represent queerness itself.
"Queer is an identity in and of itself that more and more people are choosing to identify with. It is a sort of label for those who don’t want to put themselves in a box. Often considered a movement, queer people are those who fall outside of and/or renounce the cultural norms around sexuality, gender identity, and/or gender expression.
The word queer can mean different things to different people, but the most accepted definition is someone who is not cishet or someone with variant experiences with orientation, gender, and/or sex."
https://queerintheworld.com/queer-pride-flag/
cc: @lgbtq_plus
What’s wrong with just using the Pride flag to represent queerness?
Having a specific flag seems…counterintuitive to the point
I’m a “cis” man, genderqueer to be specific but it isn’t something I can have pride in because of some sort of oppression or hate that I have received (some bullying in public school but that’s a different discussion due to the nature of the harassment) and I get all of the privilege that many people do not.
I don’t want to speak for everyone that is genderqueer, I logically cannot, but IMO I’m more than happy with the current most used pride flag and what it is supposed to represent.
My only regret is not having one! My wife is openly bisexual and I cannot believe it hasn’t crossed my mind to go out and buy one whenever I come across them!
Nah this isn’t a genderqueer flag, this is a more general queer flag. The genderqueer flag is different.
Oh I don’t mean to say that is a genderqueer-specific flag, only that, with my position on the “LGBTQ+ spectrum”, I feel as if the currently most used flag does an excellent job at representing me.
Wait… I thought Queer was just… all of us, basically? What? I’ve been using Queer to describe the community in general for a while, it’s much simpler and elegant then the acronym. I don’t think I’ve been saying something stupid with no one correcting me for months… have I?
Jesus Christ, the amount of strange and sometimes non sensical labels we have is kind of ridiculous. This makes it sounds like Queer is part of the movement, not the movement itself. Which was already confusing because of the Q in LGBTQIA+…
It’s a nice looking flag though :3
It’s both in a way. Most people I’ve known who refer to themselves as queer feel that they either belong to multiple other categories, or don’t feel that any other label describes their sexual or gender experiences
I see where you’re coming from, but I think the reason “queer” works well in that context is precisely because it’s a word that refers to the community as a whole, and not a specific experience within the community that is separate and different.
Calling yourself “queer” signifies nothing more that you’re part of the LGBT+ community. Which makes it a great label for those who don’t feel that any of the the other labels define them perfectly — but it also works well for those who do claim another label as their own, too.
To me, it’s important that it’s a word (and a flag) that unites us, and not one that is in any way exclusive.
(Although I agree that the flag is beautiful <3 and I’ll never tell anyone they can’t use a flag they want to use!)
Yeah, it’s both an overarching label for the LGBTQIA+ community at large and also a label that some people do identify personally with, as they may feel that no others really fit but they still are part of the community.
My wife, for example. I’m a trans girl, we married when I was still deeply buried in the closet. She’s ostensibly cishet - she’s more attracted to masculinity, she wouldn’t consider herself a lesbian or even bi, but nonetheless she’s happy married to another woman.
She’s doesn’t like saying she’s straight anymore - she says it doesn’t capture our relationship. She sees me for the woman I am, this isn’t a situation of her denying my gender, and she says it doesn’t feel like a straight relationship anymore. So if she has to pick a label she just calls herself queer and that’s good enough.
