I don’t understand. Reddit is exactly the same, it has thousands of different subs, many with overlapping content, many duplicated because someone didn’t like the mods, yet I don’t recall people saying reddit was broken because of it.
Why is Lemmy suddenly broken just because people naturally do the same reddit thing here?
Can’t we just ask for a feature like multi-reddit that lets users aggregate different subs into the same feeds (like sort of collections) instead of trying to reinvent the wheel?
i think it feels more broken because it has less content, communities have less subs. so it can feel like more repetition when you encounter dupplicated posts. also, if you use mobile version that has for example lemmy.ml and . world there is even more reposting most of my time at reddit i spend at my sub page and maybe once or twice encountered duplicates, hot page was different story
But that’s because people “abuse” crossposting, it’s a people’s problem, not a platform one.
agree its still new platform to most of us, we will see what becames of it
Tags is a cool idea to help users find posts or communities on specific topics.
But taking away the different communities on the same topic is misunderstanding one of the key benefits of the fediverse over Reddit. I might want to talk about horses in a different way, with different people, operating under different rules, to the way others might want to talk about horses. The fediverse allows that, without having RealHorseTalk and RealRealHorseTalk nonsense.
Better UI and categorisation tools, yes. That’ll help make sense of this for new users. But don’t take away an actually positive aspect of the fediverse just to make it look more like Reddit.
This is exactly how i felt reading the article, part of the point is to empower users to be able to make a community on a different instance if the first instance has poor moderation, a crazy admin, or just isn’t the vibe you’re lookimg for.
I think a better solution is something similar to multiredits, where users can group communities together on their own. Which also opens up opportunities for someone to view only tangentially related feeds in the same view (i.e c/news and c/canada, or c/technology and c/linux)
Maybe even allow instances to generate their own community groups you could tap into? So if I’m on lemmy.world, I could see a proposed “gaming” group that lumps together local gaming communities with cherry picked communities from other instances. I think a wealth of options here will be key. Let me see the group, and see what community it is originally from if I want. And then if I notice that one community keeps posting nonsense, allow me to block just that community (like I can now) from the group.
I’m also waiting to be able to block whole instances, but I believe that will come.
So, let’s say you have a community about video games, and they tag themselves #Gaming. Then you have another community about video games, and they tag themselves #Games. Then you have a community about boardgames, and they tag themselves #Games. Then you have a community about tabletop RPGs, and they tag themselves #Gaming.
Now you’ve got two communities discussing the same topic in different places, and both of them are also getting posts about similar but unrelated activities shoved down their throats.
I’ve been thinking of and experiencing the community duplicates, finding multiple communities with the same name and being unsure which to pick. I usually end up picking one with most users and/or content but there’s always doubt, am I picking the best one?
I really like the idea of posting to tags and the tag gets aggregated across instances and you can view all the posts. I don’t know enough about the fediverse yet to know if this is a good idea or possible even. But I’d definitely like some sort of transition to having easier to access content and more ease in finding new topics/communities/tags.
Thanks for this post.
I would have thought “community groups” is the fix - let people group communities together, so you could have all Pokémon or Star Wars communities grouped or, simply, all communities of the same name/purpose.
Works fine as just a private consolidated feed, might get trickier if these were made public, so other people could subscribe to your curated group, because you’d then end up with dozens of pretty much the same thing.
edit: so the private feed would, essentially, be something like Mastodon’s lists, for example.
Weren’t tags already proposed and being evaluated?
Nah that’s Twitter and I don’t like Twitter
Yeah the fragmentation isn’t great, but people usually flock together. For instance, you have multiple subreddits for franchises like Pokemon, but over time people will only use the most active or the most specific sub (each PKMN game has its dedicated sub). Plus I believe I’ve read somewhere that communities could be merged in the future. So if we don’t have two or more stubborn mods, that don’t want to work together everything should be fine, probably.
Better solution would be to introduce community collections. I’d love to be able to group “gaming” communities from 5 different servers into one and explore it that way.
The article sort of misses the point, and their example illustrates it perfectly. On one instance you’re talking about horses with a community for animal lovers. The other, with a community of transportation enthusiasts. There will be some overlap, but I expect the theme of most discussion to be very different. I think having separate communities is actually a good thing. It would be nice to have some way to merge on an individual level if I want to scroll through cute horse pictures and talk about riding to work. Some sort of multireddit type feature might allow that.
Local communities have a purpose. I live in Northwest Arkansas, a vibrant, slightly more liberal region of the state. I can envision a hyper local instance for all things NWA. For example, a community on trails and trail riding/hiking would focus on the area’s trail system instead of the general topic.
Now, I might want to subscribe to both the NWA trails community as well as the mote general purpose “global” trails community. So, having them distinct in some way is helpful.
Maybe it makes sense to have local communities that function as “satellites” of the global community of the same name. In this model, I could post to NWA trails and optionally choose to have my post broadcasted or cross-posted to the global community.
In the USENET era, we solved the problem with a hierarchical name space. Hierarchies are great, as long as everyone agrees on the structure. The problem is that most hierarchies are completely arbitrary. We would need a consensus group, like the Big-8, ICANN, or IETF that could manage the global community name space. This shouldn’t stop a competing group from standing up a separate, independent global namespace, though.
Maybe the ETA of the global namespace is past. Maybe there are better ways to achieve these goals today.
