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      It helps when their brain isn’t actively dripping out of their ears😁. But yeah, wouldn’t you rather have someone who you actually agree with that’s old? Besides, Bernie would have won 2016 if anything, he was almost a decade younger at that point.

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    He would actually advance working class interests though, and all billionaire/corporate funding to the Democrats would be cut off as a result; Dems wouldn’t let that happen.

    That’s the point of liberal “democracies” after all: keeping capitalists in power.

    Get organized, that excuse of a democracy won’t save you.

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      Trump being the youngest at 78 is already too old if you ask me. If the US had a ceremonial presidency like many parliamentary republics then that’d be fine but for an active head politician that’s just too old imo

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    The DNC needs to go. All of it. Literally just gone. There needs to be a real left grassroots party that maintains a much more tight ideological vision and focuses internally.

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      Before I finished reading I was gonna say that while I love Bernie, him talking shit now seemed pretty “hindsight 20/20” considering he endorsed her.

      But the “serious convo” and “stay tuned” is interesting. I hope he overthrows DNC or starts his own shit with AOC.

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        Dude, most of us kept our mouth shut as to not dissuade people from voting. Obviously it wasn’t enough. But now we can gripe and cope freely.

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          Exactly, dividing the left-wing even more would only lead to failure. The best action was to unify to squeak by, but it didn’t work this time obviously.

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            I appreciate BJG giving him a little shit because it was honestly irritating seeing him bow down to the DNC, at the same time, I think he truly thought he could push them left and that Trump is an existential threat to democracy.

            Now he’s seen over and over that the DNC has no intention of actually changing and was just paying lip service to the left, I hope he has big plans.

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    I agree 100% we needed him. If you asked me 8 years ago I’d even say I honestly believe we, as Americns, deserve him. I’m now very seriously wondering that. It’s starting to feel like we don’t. Im against collective punishment so I don’t mean to say that implies people who are going to suffer from this deserve their suffering, but I’m not sure that implies we deserve a politician like him. Glad as hell we have him in whatever office we can though.

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      Just because the shitstains that voted trump dont deserve him doesn’t mean the rest of us dont.

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    I could be wrong but polling I’ve seen says 83% of black men and 93% black women voted Democrat. Latinos and White people voted closer to 50% between the two parties

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      Latinos were the biggest loss as far as I can tell. There is a host of reasons why this group crumbled.

      Let’s see how they like seeing family members deported.

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        Not just family members.

        If you and your entire family are suddenly thrown in a cage, who are you gonna call to grab your birth certificate from the safe deposit box?

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      He won’t. He knows splitting the D vote will guarantee an R win. Unlike many voters who think they’re making a statement.

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          Then, unfortunately, you are with the republicans. I’m personally looking forward to the DNC primaries in 2-3 years. Maybe we’ll see the next Bernie take a stance. The point is, the DNC primaries are where you should make your point.

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            I’m not American, but because their politics looms so large I’m kind of forced to pay attention. And I have to say, I’m real fucking bored of waiting for the Democrats to back the next Bernie. I swear I’ve been reading about The Next Bernie since they shafted The Original Bernie in 2016.

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      He already did, didn’t you see the refreshing band of green next to his name amid all the red and blue? He generally votes the same as the Dems though.

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    Don’t you all worry your pretty little heads about any of this. In 4 years, the DNC will pick yet another anointed candidate for you to fall in line behind like good little boys and girls. And you all will dance and scream for joy and you will punish and cast out any who show signs of opposition to the one true anointed candidate.

    As it was, is now and ever shall be. World without end of the Almighty DNC, Amen.

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      Yes, everyone collectively agree to say only one thing. You’re on a discussion forum for fucks sake!

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      It’s almost as if younger politicians with similar policy goals have been actively suppressed…

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    Bernie beating Trump is a nice fantasy, but it wouldn’t happen either.

    This election was an information war, and the Democrats fought it like they’re in another century. And they’re going to lose again if they think sensible policy, however revolutionary and in-touch, and hopeful TV ads are how you win elections.

    They need their own form of MAGA. And they need to flood and poison the internet and airwaves just like the Republicans did.

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      Bernie beating Trump is a nice fantasy, but it wouldn’t happen either.

      You don’t know this. The DNC doesn’t know this (otherwise, why did Harris take such a beating?). There certainly is an argument for that, but it’s no way guaranteed. Sure, he might lose some finance bros in NY, but Bernie would definitely speak exactly to the people in the swing states. People who look at Trump to fix their economic problems without anything concrete.

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        They don’t care. It’s clearly not about the message, it’s the delivery, and Bernie would have used the same apparatus Harris used.

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        We’ll capitulate hard and “meet them across the aisle.” That’ll surely work this time! Now, how far’s that aisle slid off to?

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      A Democratic MAGA equivalent would be quickly literally bulldozed by the militarized police nationwide.