cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/1977881
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Banksy isn’t happy with Guess’ latest collaboration.
The legendary anonymous graffiti artist had a directive for his followers on Friday, encouraging them—possibly tongue in cheek, possibly not—to visit the Regent Street Guess store in London and steal the brand’s new collection that features his artwork.
“Attention all shoplifters. Please go to Guess on Regents Street. They’ve helped themselves to my artwork without asking, how can it be wrong for you to do the same to their clothes?”
Nov 18, 2022
Thanks. I was wondering if this was old news or had happened again.
There must be top-post bots working through old Reddit posts.
This community needs quality control.
Nice, stealing from multinational conglomerates is never morally wrong and should always be encouraged.
But think of the shareholders!
You. I like you.
I’m from the UK and I have no idea who Guess even are, so they can’t be that big of a deal. I won’t support them anyway… if I ever see them haha.
A quick search and it looks like the Mike Ashley owned House of Fraser sells them. So double win.
Who owned what?
Mike Ashley owns House of Fraser (it’s a department store in the UK)
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/national/22314678.mike-ashley-controversial-retail-magnate/
Doesn’t Banksy’s entire schtick hang on “helping himself” to a “canvas?”
There’s a legitimate discussion to be had about whether not he should be doing that, but to compare it to a multinational corporation profiting off of clothes depicting his work without his permission is pretty disingenuous.
This is not me saying people should go shoplift nor is it me saying that Banksy isn’t a whiner.
My brother in christ the art sells for millions…
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What are you talking about? Are you triggered?
From zero to bad faith accusations in one comment, bravo c/unitedkingdom.
I’m not sure where the bad faith accusation is. You’re saying that because of the way he operates, they get to use his work without his permission on physical products they sell for profit. If this is incorrect feel free to explain what you meant.
You made no bad faith argument here. Your response for further discussion was a great prompt and right in line with this thread but clearly they don’t want to engage.
I really dislike this trend of responding to comments with the red badge of “bad faith argument”. It is awfully dismissive, particularly without saying why, like in this case here. Best case, they may expect that you know exactly why you are being accused of that and want to shut down bad faith arguing, but if you have no idea why, it’s really just meant to insult or harm. Ironically, accusing someone of a bad faith argument without explaining why may be considered bad faith arguing.
Sorry you got a response like that. I thought your response was good, thoughtful and good attempt at more discussion. I agree and don’t have much to add, unfortunately, but just wanted to support your post.
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nahhhh. we know who he is, and he collaborates with local authorities to put up his art. and retains all rights to it of course.
so he is actually very justified in feeling this way because he unironically greatly benefits from the commercial side of things.
of course, he still wants us to think this is some counterculture shit.
I don’t know that this is strictly true, he has had works painted over before and notably had a rivalry with that Manchester King fella and they re did each others works regularly.
Yeah and the rappers that make diss tracks about each other totally hate each other too, it’s not for publicity at all, they’d really kill each other if only they had a chance. Too bad they’re too busy making millions.
That’s not what I’m saying, I think you’re being intentionally negative and obtuse. Yes there is a commercial aspect, no it not a given that everything he does is with the approval of local governments.
He didn’t stand to gain anything by feuding with the other street artist.
Also there are lots of hiphop feuds that do famously bleed into real life and too many have died. Are there people who use this narrative to further their careers, yes but it doesn’t make everything fake.
He stands to gain attention and notoriety, which is why he does everything he does. As does the other street artist. If you don’t think it was a publicity stunt fine, I certainly can’t prove it was, but that’s what I believe.
Yeah but different rules for him, right?
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But why not the opposite! /s
Will he pay their legal fees if someone gets arrested?
No, but Elon Musk will promise to pay your legal fees then double back on it.
Elon Musk will give your info to the Saudi government
This is like being in a time capsule from 2022
A time capsule from one year ago? Mate, if you’re gonna use the time capsule meme, you gotta go further back then one year.
It’s to signify this is old news m8. The article was from last year… Why are you so slow ?
Why is there a shoplifting community on here 😂
Something to do during the school holidays, I guess
Fair
His next piece should be called “Two Wrongs….”
Wild how the Nazis out themselves over fucking BANKSY
So if you don’t agree with a multinational clothing brand using someone’s art for profit without their permission you’re a nazi now?
No but super disingenuous questions asked in that tone regurgitated in defense of capitalist nonsense sure are a red flag.
How is what I said a red flag? Are you following the correct thread? I didn’t defend Guess.
oh nooo. Poor bansky. This has ruined my day. Kids are crying now.
This comment is peak comedy why are you guys downvoting this
Well, it took a whole 2 months, but at last “why all the downvotes?” / “downvoted for the truth smh” / etc. has reared its head in my feed again.
What transpired here was a fucking travesty. OP was robbed of the critical acclaim that they deserved for their short form original comedy routine and instead they were met with nary more than silence, broken only by the left-mouse-button click of disapproval.
Until our deuteragonist, @Blake (PBUH) entered the tale, turning those unwashed, downvoting masses aside, to extend the open hand of succour to the hero of this story, to be the rock that the chaotic waves break upon, and yet the solid foundation upon which civilisation can be built.
Sir, ma’am, or neither, I say to you - perhaps to you I am but the deliverer of a nearly-forgotten refrain, a creature of yesteryear, attempting to re-establish traditions which should be confined to the annals of history. But do not forget that one of our kindred reached out to touch the minds and souls of their fellow human, thinking that their wit and comedy would be appreciated at least by some, and until my timely arrival, they were ignored and rejected. Put yourself in their shoes.
I choose to imagine that reading my comment, an expression of gratitude in the desolation of coventration hitherto experienced, was akin to the Sun rising on the horizon after a long, cold night.
What I’m trying to say, my dear friend, is this: “lol, lmao”
Aite, I’ll admit it. That was funny lol
I shouldn’t have said anything. I’m just being a snippy redditor with the above comment myself. Have a good one man
Nah no worries, you’re all good, no need to apologise, I’m only playing <3. Thanks & you too!
(PBUH) was very good here.
The people that will be affected most are the front line staff who is already working on minimum wages…not the multinational corp
They won’t, they are encouraged to let the shoplifters shoplift, because it’s just collateral.
In turn the company will seize operations in that area and the cashiers will lose their jobs.
Great job.You think Guess is going to let their flagship London store go over some shoplifting?
Yes, at enough volume in theft they will just close the shop.
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You just advocated for it. If you dont want it becoming the norm, why would you recommend people to do it. And yes. They will close even the biggest store, if the lost revenue rises high enough.
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If the company is paying you minimum wage you really struggle to give a shit about people stealing from them
This is horrifying. There’s no good reason to ever steal from a store, period.
Stars is a banger tbh
Except when that store is a big multinational that pays their employees the bare minimum for stuff that costs pennies to make but is sold for half their monthly income.
That’s even worse because that store employs so many people, when you steal from that store it’s hurting all of those employees
His celebrity status depends on hyperbolic rhetoric like this. If he had handled it the way normal people do, through courts, he’d be damaging his mystique. The sheep that think he’s the bee’s knees slurp this bullshit up.
So? Is he wrong?
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Corporations don’t deserve that right. His stance on this is directly related to corporate abuse of the system. Nuance is difficult though so I understand why it’s easy for you to feel like you made a good point.
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I can’t say legally since I’m not a lawyer but I don’t think much of people who suggest you do (crime) because (crime) occurred. I consider it a low-end mentality to view that as a resolution or justice of some kind.
I don’t think that it’s a resolution or justice, I think it’s funny ^^
Not as funny as a person adept at using stencils to paint on other people’s property getting upset someone used his stenciling on their property, IMHO.
Or maybe the ultimate troll artist, is fucking trolling. Perhaps making a joke about stealing their stuff because they stole his.
Perhaps. He’s super-clever like that.
Imagine obliquely calling someone basic when you had to have their point explained
Jesus Christ you are a moron.
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I support people painting on gray walls in cities!
I support it if it’s what the people want.
As I support a company’s right to use the likeness of illegal graffiti on their clothing.
So you’re a bootlicker? A fascist? You honestly prioritize corporate profits over public art? Fuck you.
fair
Yes.
Let people enjoy things
If he had handled it the way normal people do, through courts
There is more to it than that. He’s been blocked from claiming the copyright on his own work since he’d need to dox himself. He can’t claim the copyright as ‘Banksy’ since it’s not his real name.
It’s a joke.
What a fucking idiot. He / she could have sued them if he felt aggrieved instead of encouraging people to commit crimes.
But where’s the fun in that?
Sure! If you’re a clown 🤡.
I’m down to clown
Last time he had to take it all the way to the appeal court to get them to agree he had the rights to his own images.
I can understand not wanting to do that again.
And he still lost trademarks on at least 4 of his major pieces because he wanted to stay anonymous
He / she
Why do you assume Banksy is one of those? We don’t know who Banksy is.
True true. Maybe they are a multinational conglomerate? 😅
Grandma, what are these stencils for?!
Fucking hell I hope this comment is a joke
If we don’t know who a person is, how can we know what pronouns to use for that person?
I meant more the usage of “one of those” to describe a person
I used “one of those” to refer to two different pronouns. We don’t know Bansky uses either and there are other options.
Oh fair, I read it as being very demeaning!
Well thanks for looking out. (serious)
Robert Del Naja (of Massive Attack) is Banksy. You’re welcome.
I don’t think Banksy wants me to know that info, so I’m going to take special care to not remember that info.
Just like I have no idea who dril is.
