• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    That happens in the States too between state borders. I secretly think that States put extra effort into the area JUST at the borders to highlight the difference.

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      I don’t think that’s unreasonable at all, actually. I’d expect liminal spaces, especially entrances, to get a little more attention to their presentation than other places - everybody knows first impressions are important, right?

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      And even in between counties. I cross the county line between a well-funded suburban county and a dirt-poor rural county occasionally and the road quality is night and day.

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      The Netherlands is too small to put effort in one particular area. It’s like painting with too big of a brush.

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      If that were true then the street on both sides of the border would be fancy, instead of only the street on one side of it.

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        Is 57th good or bad? I’m not really sure how to interpret your comment.

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          I looked it up and think I found what they were talking about. It appears they are 57th out of 127 at just over 70 million barrels annually (if I’m reading this correctly) with the number 1 spot taken by the US at nearly 15 billion. I think I agree with the other response you got, just a bad faith comment trying to shit talk a country they don’t like.

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            “There are only two things I can’t stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other people’s cultures, and the Dutch!”

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    I was in the Netherlands for the first time in decades recently. The contrast between German and Dutch motorways was amazing. They were all like new whereas the German ones are just fucked up.

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      In my experience the Belgian roads are much worse, but my experience is hardly definitive…

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        True, German roads aren’t nearly as good as Dutch roads, but regardless you’ll always be able to tell immediately when you enter Belgium

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          My experience driving through Europe from Sweden has always been that the closer you get to the Netherlands the better the roads get. Middle Sweden is usually single lane highways with overtaking every xx km, southern Sweden has multi-lane highways, when you hit Denmark you get even wider highways and some truly spectacular bridges, then you hit Germany and your number of lanes increases again as does the speed limit, and then when you get to the Neterlands the roads are just as wide as the German ones but they look like they were built less than a week ago. It would be truly great to drive if the speed limits weren’t such a massive step back from just coming out of Germany, or consistent to begin with. I never really knew what speed you were supposed to go because it feels like the Dutch arbitrarily change the speed limit every 10km. But yeah, road quality is absolutely insane.

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            I used to live in Belgium while biking to school in the Netherlands. Aside from the road conditions themselves, it was always very noticeable in terms of safety how much better the Dutch roads were. The second I’d cross the border, I’d go from badly maintained pavement with a roughly drawn on bike path to a dedicated biking road that runs alongside the main road with a ditch and trees in between.

            I now live in Canada and while the road conditions here are definitely not as good, the thing I miss even more from Dutch roads is the traffic lights; they’re all connected! You almost never run into a red light twice on the same road in the Netherlands. In Canada (and probably most other places) it seems almost guaranteed that if you hit one red light you’re gonna hit them all…

            And don’t get me started on pedestrian traffic lights… :p

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              Funny that. I moved to Canada too. While I live remote enough to not see many traffic lights on the regular, I do agree with you that they’re horribly timed in most cities. And while we’re on stuff that makes no damn sense over here: right on red is the stupidest thing anyone ever came up with in terms of traffic laws. It alone is responsible for (iirc) 30% of fatal accidents in North America. Whoever thought it’d be a good idea to have pedestrians cross at the same time as allowing cars to take a corner into them is an absolute madman. It’s almost as if they want to encourage pedestrian/cyclist crashes with motorvehicles. I mean, left on red (BC and some other places) for as stupid as it sounds even makes (a very little bit) more sense than right on red. At least you’re encouraging crashes between motorvehicles with that one instead of promoting running over squishy human bodies with a metal death box.

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                Even without right on red it’s kinda insane. You can have a green light to turn right while pedestrians have a green light to cross that very same street.

                I kinda like the way they compromised in Quebec, where pedestrians just get a green light for the entire intersection and all cars have to wait.

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                  Good point. It’s almost as if turning a corner is a foreign concept in most of North America ;-). Jokes aside, it’s frankly baffeling that only Quebec had some sense to look at this and go “Hold up, this makes no sense”.

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    Me playing GeoGuessr I was once placed in Flanders with a sign near me saying “Wegdek in slechte staat”. The wegdek was indeed in a slechte staat.

    Searching for pictures of these signs on Google, they seem to be accompanied by notes saying “Doe er dan iets aan!”.

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        “Wegdek in slechte staat” means “road surface in poor condition.”

        “Doe er dan wat aan” means “then do something about it.”

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        Aside from the translation. It’s a bit of a national meme for Belgium that their roads are shit. Driving from the Netherlands into Belgium is noticable even for the blind.

        They are trying to fix that, but infrastructure replacement is expensive and labor intensive.

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    Where is this in the Netherlands ?

    I already saw a similar meme in the past an the bike road was actually in Belgium.

    I don’t want to be fooled once again :)

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    If you zoom in, there is a car in the bike way. The road is too small for 2 cars. If the bike way is just a line that gets ignored, I don’t need it. But maybe I’m over interpreting

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      I think you are under interpreting. The road is absolutely too small for two cars, and it’s showing that bikes have priority on that part of the road. If two cars are in the center car lane, they must wait for the bike lanes to be clear to pass each other, it’s not first come, first served as a road with no bike lanes would be.

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        100%. If you are a car wanting to pass a bike and there is an oncoming car, you wait behind the bike for the other car to pass before overtaking.

        This road is also probably super rural and does not have enough traffic for this to become an issue. Overtaking and oncoming traffic is not a constant given how sparse the traffic is.

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          Further more. That’s 60 kmh not mph so it’s relatively slow moving cars

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      Actually, because the bike lane has a dotted line as a border AND a bike logo in it (repeated every 250m or something), vehicles MAY cross said line (for passing or overtaking) but a bicycle has right of way in that lane.

      This way you can make a 2 lane road a 4 lane road for slow traffic.

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      As others have already mentioned, bikes have priority here. There is another aspect, however.

      This scheme also intentionally makes the road look narrower than it actually is, which naturally makes people drive slower.

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    I wish we had more bike lanes in Madrid, or at least some that would start or end other than in the middle of nowhere.